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Laura Pauling said in March 18th, 2011 at 4:04 am

Save the Cat says the first plot point or catalyst or inciting incident should happen close to the end of the first act. I think writers get confused with a lot of industry blogs that say you must introduce the story conflict early and maybe spend about a paragraph or so with set up. I think that’s more about introducing some kind of initial conflict rather than the first plot point.

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Laura Josephsen said in March 18th, 2011 at 7:19 am

Thank you so much for writing this! I can’t tell you how much I needed to hear this. There are plenty of books that work just going straight into the plot, but I tend to write the build-up and the ‘get to know the characters.’ If their normal life is going to be ripped away from them, it’s nice to know why I should care.

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Shonna Slayton said in March 18th, 2011 at 10:00 am

You guys reminded me of something else. The hook. I don’t know what else Larry has planned for his guest blogs, so he may get to this, but he has a nice list of eight(?) points that need to be addressed in that initial set up BEFORE the First Plot Point. The dramatic hook, being one of them.

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Heather said in March 18th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

In screenwriting, the inciting incident is most reliably on page 10 of a 120-page script. It sets the events in motion, and would be meaningless if you do not have some familiarity with your protagonist and his/her world to know that this incident is going to change both.

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Shonna Slayton said in March 19th, 2011 at 10:59 am

Thanks for noting that, Heather. Screenwriting seems to have stricter “rules” than novel writing, but having those rules really help organize the plot.

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Kitty Bucholtz said in March 20th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

I think the biggest problem is that at some point the nth person writing a how-to book said to themselves, I’m going to rename some of these plot points because either I have a better name for them or I want my book to be remembered. The catalyst and inciting incident and “disturbance” are all the same point – very early on in the story. The first MAJOR plot point is Turning Point 1 in most 3-act structure books, and that is about 1/4 of the way through the story. So the inciting incident and turning point 1 are not at all the same plot point – but many people get the terms confused. I’ve even heard people in screenwriting classes arguing with the teacher. I agree, Shonna, very frustrating.

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